K Zildjian cymbals are known for their dark, warm sound that harkens back to the original K cymbals developed by Zildjian in 19th Century. Turkey. We use. All later Avedis Zildjian stamps have dot dot dash dash at the bottom of the Image: Zilco TRADE MARK stamp in WFL Catalog .. This seems to be the case in his original essay, and to have lasted until at least Avedis Zildjian info by year annotated with information and links: Avedis catalog lists Bop Flange Hats and Be-Bop cymbals 18″ to 26″ (Cymbal Book , p) AB change to pin lathing on K Cons; 15, 17, 19 crashes added.

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That makes it easier to measure the distance accurately. I suspect but can’t be certain that in part it happened because of over generalizing from too few cymbal examples. If you have one of these it seems better to avoid calling it a ” stamp” and instead refer to it as a “mid 50s cymbal with a 60s short stamp”.

This is an extended version of the construction described in the context of distinguishing a 70s stamp from other stamps. There are NO three dots on the small stamp. Bill kept wanting to check for hammering on the bottom to be sure. That will move your browser window into the gallery and place in on that entry.

Thus I have no way to judge the strength of the evidence. Knowing that we are looking at Ottoman also gives us a bit of an insight into what the dots are about which appear over some letters but not in all versions of all die stamps. Cursive A next to the model ink By a cursive A appears to the left of the model ink, and the font for the model and weight designation changes slightly.

What about the sound I hear you cry. The stamp tells you which stamp went on the cymbal when it was stamped.


I am not responsible for any of the pre s dates, I’m just compiling information painstakingly researched by Bill Hartrick and now in circulation around the web, most often with no acknowledgement of the original source.

You need a decent photo in order to see the difference but I’ve found that once I got my eye trained up using my reference collection I zildjiqn use it reliably.

The top of the Ottoman is present on all examples of this stamp I’ve seen so far.

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In Trans Stamps and pre Trans Stamps it can’t fit. Occasionally the Country of Origin line “MADE IN” may be missing for some other reason from a different die stamp poorly stamped in, or lathing grooves make zilvjian all but invisible.

There are a few different lettering styles used in the different decades, but ink has been around for a long time. As far as the info Zildjian gave to them. Kerope Bottom The Kerope Series was released inafter a few prototypes appeared in mid For examples of hammering on these zilcjian s Large Stamp cymbals go to the hammering page.

Feb 9, 2. There are two 18″ HBs in my reference collection.

The first is one used for cymbals to be sold with Rogers drums: The IG year does have the cursive A. I would say that this site is best avoided unless you really know what you are doing. No, create an zildjiab now. As a result many people don’t seem to be able to tell the s stamp from the s small stamp. That along with the dot in the dot dot dash dash assures accuracy in placement. I have attached them to a year because I had to put it somewhere.

It depends on how the die stamp was pressed cstalogo on each individual cymbal.

It says Avedis Zildjian possibly with Co at the end. Of course, it is easier just to use the presence of the three dots to tell. Incomplete Ottoman decode Note that RobScott gives an example in Arabic and also reports that the upper portion says Avedis Zildjian, although he doesn’t decode this one letter at a time. Telling a 50s from a 70s is that simple, although there are some more sophisticated uses of the line construction which allow for more distinctions among the Large Stamps vs 60s Stamps vs 70s.


I’m glad I figured that out. Here it is in action reporting The obvious distinguishing feature of this stamp is that it has CO. Feb 10, 7. The cursive A also has a registered trademark symbol.

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It shares this one attribute with the s small stamp. For examples of hammering on these Small Stamp cymbals go to the hammering page. This is just on the top side of the cymbal. The Ottoman portion and the font for the English has changed as well, and these look more like the s CO stamp.

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The detail of the cross bar distinguishes some stamp eras but I haven’t finished dong all my checking yet to present the results more generally. In addition, there is a check which distinguishes the s stamps from the Large Stamp with the three dots based catalog the vertical alignment of the AN of Zildjian and the NE of Genuine.

I haven’t yet been able to determine if zidljian represent an occasional pressing flaw, low spots on that particular die, that particular die starting to wear out, or something else. The earlier stamp is characterized by a “chunky” or “thick line” appearance in the Ottoman section, and it and has three dashes under catalovo. But when they are present, the flaws are in the D and I which can sometimes look like an isometimes the left side of the V, and occasionally the left side of the top of the A.

Some but not all Trans Stamps show very obvious hammer blows on both the top and the bottom.